tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post2985222173381216951..comments2023-10-04T07:48:54.384-04:00Comments on oenoLogic: Varietal is not the spicethor iversonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-38224096940106182352010-11-28T13:44:37.667-05:002010-11-28T13:44:37.667-05:00Wow. Minnesotans coming out of the woodwork on thi...Wow. Minnesotans coming out of the woodwork on this blog. I feel like I'm running a support group. ;-)<br /><br />(I'm actually *in* Minnesota at the moment, remembering why I don't live here anymore.)<br /><br />It's not too late, though. See earlier comments. We can change the world, one adjective at a time!thor iversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-40427011346740615532010-11-28T05:39:23.183-05:002010-11-28T05:39:23.183-05:00Thor, thank you very much for this post, although ...Thor, thank you very much for this post, although I'm afraid it's too late now - I remember seeing somewhere an article stating that the use of "varietal" as a noun had became an acceptable option. Even for a non-native English speaker (but a part-time Minnesotan!) like me it is quite disturbing.<br /><br />Greetings from Poland, where we have just had our first Minnesota-like snowfall, with the temperatures coming down fast as well.Andrzej Daszkiewiczhttp://winogranie.blog.pl/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-41682325967246953282010-11-10T00:59:44.192-05:002010-11-10T00:59:44.192-05:00Hoke thought I did it deliberately, because that w...Hoke thought I did it deliberately, because that would have been enormously clever of me, and in the great tradition of post-facto revisionism I'm sticking with his interpretation.<br /><br />That said, the particular transformation I employed doesn't bother me so much, for reasons that are specific to individuated uses and aren't really worth getting into in a comments section. Over a bottle of wine, one day, maybe. Not here.thor iversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-90131193065941429512010-11-09T13:36:44.503-05:002010-11-09T13:36:44.503-05:00Very well said, Thor. Really, I couldn't agre...Very well said, Thor. Really, I couldn't agree more. The abuse of varietal has always been a burr in my craw, as well.<br /><br />This does beg the question, though, one already asked but perhaps not received in said manner via Hoke:<br /><br />Enzymed? A verb?<br /><br />Careful, before it's "too late."David McDuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03274955351036700406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-33653815328883171742010-11-05T18:10:46.349-04:002010-11-05T18:10:46.349-04:00Kirsten: great Scandinavian name. I should admit t...Kirsten: great Scandinavian name. I should admit to you that I'm a native Minnesotan, so we have something in common. Love the blog.<br /><br />Vinosseur: I don't know that you could call Norway a non-English-speaking country anymore. But OK, if you wish to feel shame no matter how much I try to absolve you -- a very Lutheran trait, I must say ;-) -- I'm not going to stop you.thor iversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-59136447460496337802010-11-04T16:58:29.055-04:002010-11-04T16:58:29.055-04:00Thor
Then I am even more embarrassed to remind yo...Thor<br /><br />Then I am even more embarrassed to remind you that I am a native English speaker - born in the USA and raised in California! I have only been calling Norway my home for 7 years. <br />I didn't pay enough attention in school I guess, or perhaps my English grammar has gotten worse living in a non-native English speaking country :-)<br /><br />Skål!vinosseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01589504463124738079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-64168508138255168042010-11-04T13:53:17.809-04:002010-11-04T13:53:17.809-04:00Thanks, did not know that! (Love the asides, reall...Thanks, did not know that! (Love the asides, really, they make it all worthwhile)Kirsten Lindquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287714269423226050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-67786693672429739082010-11-03T20:34:11.072-04:002010-11-03T20:34:11.072-04:00Vinosseur: I forgive non-native English speakers.....Vinosseur: I forgive non-native English speakers...though I might have less charity towards my fellow Norwegians, who should know better. ;-)<br /><br />Tobais: another good alternative.<br /><br />Hoke: sure. A recipe of aroma-directed yeasts and enzymes to get whatever balance between sweet tropicality and pyrazines/faux-pyrazines (yes, I know that's a problematic usage) a particular producer is looking for. Everyone's chasing their take on the original Cloudy Bay cocktail, including Cloudy Bay.<br /><br />WCVR: and see, someone sent me an email yesterday saying it was "too late" for this sort of thing. I rest my counter-argument, and thank you.<br /><br />GG: admittedly, the examples were more fun than the rant itself.thor iversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-22401671944694073182010-11-03T19:51:17.442-04:002010-11-03T19:51:17.442-04:00Hear, bloody hear.
I avoid, if possible, any use o...Hear, bloody hear.<br />I avoid, if possible, any use of 'varietal' at all. At any time.<br />It's like a dagger in my ear.<br />Nice quotes, too, by the way, to illustrate your point.<br />GGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-84631050085627640412010-11-03T18:02:08.838-04:002010-11-03T18:02:08.838-04:00Ack, going to have to go through our blog and corr...Ack, going to have to go through our blog and correct this ASAP. Thanks for the usage lesson!WCVRhttp://www.winecouver.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-28250507920278922612010-11-03T11:57:45.602-04:002010-11-03T11:57:45.602-04:00You funny.
And you refudiate well.
"yeasted...You funny.<br /><br />And you refudiate well.<br /><br />"yeasted and enzymed"??? :^)Hoke Hardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16237562923949274059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-71009007311631653812010-11-03T08:52:41.588-04:002010-11-03T08:52:41.588-04:00Opting to say monocépage instead makes me feel so ...Opting to say monocépage instead makes me feel so cool. <br /><br />Hope the echoes of your rant are heard far away.Tobiasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-55973006663807731242010-11-03T05:39:21.774-04:002010-11-03T05:39:21.774-04:00Thank you for this post. I would say that grammar...Thank you for this post. I would say that grammar has never been my strength.. Message heard loud and clear ;-)<br /><br />Cheers,vinosseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01589504463124738079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-44277867833499560302010-11-02T23:31:14.197-04:002010-11-02T23:31:14.197-04:00Not a bad plan.Not a bad plan.thor iversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189098900228936573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-49048302241175230682010-11-02T19:32:28.761-04:002010-11-02T19:32:28.761-04:00That is why I use "cultivar". Sure, it i...That is why I use "cultivar". Sure, it is not as specific like variety (Pinot Noir) and clone (667), but it leaves no room for mistaking a vine for the liquid in a bottle.Arthurhttp://www.winesooth.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19631515.post-67770354635546777602010-11-02T18:42:18.108-04:002010-11-02T18:42:18.108-04:00Got it. Thanks.Got it. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com